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Can you accept the teachings of both science and religion in regard to the formation of Earth and the explanation of the varied and highly complex organisms today, or must it be one way or the other?

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I believe that you can accept both the teachings of evolution and religion. However, you may not be able to fully accept both. It is possible that the organisms that God first created have evolved since creation. This would be due to changing environments and natural selection. But you can not believe that everything evolved from single-celled organisms if you believe in creation. The bible says that God created man in his own image. However, we do not know what God's image is. It is possible to believe in both evolution and religion, but it may be difficult.



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I believe that this is a puzzle that we are putting the pieces together wrongly and we need to focus on studying truth and religion. Theories can explain a lot about what certain communities whether it be science or mathematical, think. I believe that there was a beginning and there will be an end. That is why I believe that evolution should stay a theory.



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I believe that as people we need to be firmly rooted in one place or the other. Being a flimsy in between is worth next to nothing. When it comes to the origin of life and how organisms today came to be, a person should follow what a certain religion says, or  rely on what has been collected and concluded by science. If you put yourself in the grey area in between, you'll just end up confused. I believe that in every aspect of life it is our responsibility to pick through our beliefs until we can decide what we truly believe, and to believe it strongly.  So overall, I do not believe you can't fully accept two beliefs, science and relgion, at once.

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I think that some scientific ideas are correct. Like we may change over time due to the changing environment. The strongest do survive. But it's the evolving of humans from other things that is different. God created man, and there's nothing else to it. I have many questions about this theory. And that's all it is. A theory.  



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My answer is neither yes or no. For some religion, such as Christianity, they believe in divine origin, in other religions they don't. In the bible its says God created all life in 6 days and created man on the 6th. So for Christians, the Bible is their root or foundation, so if they were to read this and then read or hear that all life that exists today took over a billion years is going to be hard to believe. As I said in a previous post I do think evolution should be taught in school, but its up to the child to believe it or not to and if their religion says otherwise, they can either follow their religion or science.  



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People vary like nature and religion varies. Of course we can believe in both scientific causes and religious causes while studying evolution and how the earth could have formed! A lot of information about this subject is about interpretation. Some parts in an idea you can support and others you don't. Parts of an idea can be related to religion and others more to science. I honestly do not believe that humans are descendants from apes. Allah created us! However, we are subject to change and maybe even small cases of evolution if Allah allows it. Evolution is a theory so it is not 100% certain that it is true. This allows openings for us to implement our religion. Being able to survive change without destroying one's beliefs is what makes man and America strong.



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I believe that this depends on the religion, but personally I believe that you cannot accept all of the principles of evolution and be completely faithful to your religion, which for me is Christianity. By this I mean that as a Christian I accept adaptation and natural selection, but I do not believe that one species can come from another. Instead I believe that God created organisms to suit their environments but they can adapt if their environments if they change. I cannot fully accept the theory of evolution because I do not believe that all life evolved, I believe that humans and all other life were created just as the book of Genesis describes. So in conclusion, I believe that though some parts of the scientific formation of the earth and complex organisms may be true, you must give your faith and devotion either to science or your religion.

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“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.". This is one of my quotes and it very accurately describes my opinion on this topic. Religion and science can go together, and I believe that they should co-exist. Religion fills in for the issues of science and  science fills in the issues with religion. For examples, one issues with science is feeling small and hopeless in a large universe, and religion cancels out this feeling with a since of importance. Religion brings along primitives feelings of hope and the idea of luck, and science levels the person's head with logic. Religion and science eliminate the problems in each other and provide a balanced life. Religious views and scientific views not only can occupy the same person's beliefs but should.



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     It is very possible to accept both, more and more scientist today are converting to Christianity yet they hold their evolutionary beliefs.  Some say God created the big bang and then evolution took its course, just because someone is a christian, doesnt mean they believe the world is only 6-10,000 years old. My beliefs are slightly merged, growing up in the atheist Soviet Union, i was taught these beliefs that carried over to when I became a christian. In the end, it is possible to believe in both, but one can only commit to one, either you believe in a god or you don't.



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I cannot accept the teachings of science and religion. I would feel as if I were betraying God. God says to his people that no one shall treasure or worship anyone or anything more than God. If I were to believe in the origins of life from a science perspective, I would be believing in something that is against what He says. When I was a little girl in Mississippi, I was taught that God created the earth and the heavens. When I was told that the earth and all its life were created by the process of species coming from older species it was unbelievable. If you can find a way to teach about the origins of life without interfering with other people's beliefs, then count me in! As of right now, there is no solution but stopping the teaching of the origins of life all together.



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You cannot believe in or accept both the teachings of science and religion. Science basically discredits a divine creator or a God. And in religion it says that a divine creator created us that all of our bodily limbs were created by a divine creator. But in the scientific teachings it is believed that we evolved over many years(billions of years). I personally do not believe in either. But religion and science cannot co-exist together because they share two totally different stand points on how this life was created down to every little cell in our bodies. 



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I think I can except both points of view on the origin of life. Nobody in the world has completely concrete evidence that life started one way or the other, so things could go in either direction. I am a very realistic person who will only except something as fact if and only if I have seen it with my own eyes. Nobody can prove to me that their religion or lack of religion is true fact, so I will remain neutral on this subject and say that it could go either way. I can accept both viewpoints but I can't say that I will follow any certain viewpoint because of my agnostic beliefs. 



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I support some aspects of evolution from my religion and science. It is not just one way. Through the Jurassic Park movies, I have done extensive research on evolution, and have learned much about it. In my religion, God created life, but I believe the Torah shouldn't just be read word for word. It needs to be interpreted. How it is to be interpreted is beyond my religious understanding, but I believe the one God created life, but not in the form of a modern-day human. I do not known whether it was as a single- celled organism or an early primate. He gave us the knowledge to process all this information along with the talent to discover it, so there must be some reason for it, and all the hard work and evidence found by scientist should not be ignored and thrown away. The evidence is highly convincing, so even though I am strong in my religion, I chose to incorporate some aspects of both into my evolutionary beliefs. 



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    In my case, I didn't have much of a choice. I was born far before these theories came to be. However, I faithfully stick to my animistic religion, which clearly states that the invisible and visible, along with all of the other gods, were created by one supreme god. I never knew anything about evolution, but even if I did, I would have never abandoned nor compromised my beliefs to believe it. Just like anything else, however, I would have allowed it to spread in my empire if it had existed at the time, because my people should have the choice whether they want to believe it or not.



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I believe that you can accept the facts of science while still having faith in a higher power. To me, faith is more about having someone to believe in and someone to pray to in times of need, and not living strictly by the book. For example, you can still believe in a higher power that crated the Earth, but also that after the creation of the Earth evolution went into motion. Science doesn't have to be a killer of faith.  



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I believe that you can learn and accept the scientific way that we all came about, but you can still have a strong belief in religion. God is more of someone that I look up to, and turn to when I have no one else. I believe in the Bible, but I believe that people may have interpreted it differently. Both need to be learned and used, but I don't believe that science should stop people from believing in a bigger being.



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As I said in my earlier responses I am not a strong practicing Roman Catholic. However, I still believe that God created the Earth and the theory of evolution goes against that. I do however believe that some science is real. For example, natural selection is a law of nature that is real and can be proven with lots of evidence. I think that both science and religion can be accepted. In my opinion, whatever the Bible doesn't state can be accepted, but it must be proven fact. Evolution is not a proven fact and goes against my religion therefore some science should not be accepted. 



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I do believe that the teachings of science and religion regarding the formation of Earth and the complex organisms today can both be accepted on certain topics. But there are also times that I find myself thinking that science and religion shouldn’t mix because it causes so much conflict. Some religions are very strict and are specific on the things that they believe and don’t believe. They think that everybody that is part of the religion should have these beliefs and they stay inside the rules of their book of teachings. Other religions are very open to suggestion and let their member interpret the teachings as they may allowing people to add in elements of science for a way that they understand it.  



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Thee can believe in any combination of religion and science that thee chooses to believe. Many modern religions hath been formed from the mixing of beliefs from different faiths and hath created new religions as mixtures of previous ones. The same can apply to thee. If thy chooses to believe that God created the earth but also believe in evolution, thy may do so. There is no restriction on one's thoughts and opinions, and any combination of science and religion may be believed in by any man. This is possible because there are accepted explanations for so many different aspects of life that one doth not have to believe in all of one set of beliefs and reject all beliefs of another group. 



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I don't think you can believe in both a combination of both religion in science. The information you might get from the origin of life from text like the bible just don't add up with things for evolution. The bible says that God created modern man in a day but that just dosent add up with primate evolution. The bible also says that the earth was formed 6,000 years ago, while most scientists theorize earth to be about 4.6 billion years old.



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I believe that you can believe in both teachings of religion and science in regard to the formation of Earth and the explanation of the varied and highly complex organisms today. You can't really believe in both completely, though. I'm a Christian, and personally, I just don't believe in evolution because God created man and the universe. However, everyone has different viewpoints, and I'm an open-minded person. In some way, you might be able to incorporate both teachings into what you believe, and if you can do that, then go for it! If in some case someone hates on your beliefs, then just shake it off!



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Possibly, I think to some extent, yes. Religion is a complicated matter, each individual having slightly different beliefs from the next, and there are of course gray areas. I absolutely do not believe in the Big Bang Theory. As a Jew, I believe that there were almost 6 days of creation before Adam was born and then 5776 years occurring after his birth - the years of humanity. But, the topic regarding the age of the universe is a little fuzzy, due to the passage of time being unlike the 24-hours-per-day deal that it now is. This is why I cannot determine if Earth was formed 4.6 billion years ago. So, science could possibly be correct in its calculations here. Evolution on the other hand, is something I disregard completely, but each to their own, I guess. 



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     No, you cannot accept both religion and science. If you are Christian, you most likely believe that man was created on the 6th day of Earth's existence. However, the Earth was formed 4.58 billion years ago, and humans have only been around for 6 million of it. This definitely does not add up, therefore you cannot believe in both science and religion. It must be one or the other, because both have many contradictions within them.



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I believe that you can choose both. It is hard to figure out this confusing thing called religion when each person is believing some parts and some believing other parts.  Just because you are a Roman Catholic doesn't mean that you can't believe that Earth was created 4.6 billion years ago. It would be hard to believe in everything about both principles because in some circumstances, evolution says one thing but religion says another and vice versa. I personally believe in both, but on some topics I may lean towards the theory of evolution rather than Christianity. It is very complicated to believe in both because you have to know what parts of which you believe.



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I believe that you can believe in both science and religion, based on the knowledge you have on both religion and science. If you don't know much about Christianity, but you know a lot about science, you can still believe in Christianity,you just believe more in science. However, if you don't know much about much about science, but you know a lot Christianity, you could still believe in science, you just believe in Christianity more. In other words, people can believe in both science and religion, or not believe in either of them, but people have free will choose what they want to believe in. Some say they believe in religion and science but live their lives like they don't. 



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   I know, of course, that you cannot accept both topics for the theory of the world! You must pick a side, the religion, Christian side of course, or otherwise be wrong! The Lord our God created the world in 6 days, and nothing else is to be believed. I am well aware that both theories contradict each other- so one must be wrong! I know that the Christian church has sufficient evidence that proves how the Earth was formed. What does science have?Merely a theory. In conclusion, I think that the ideas are much too different for both to be accepted. Not to mention, only the fact that God created the world is the only true answer. 



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Dear shipmates, (I have resorted to calling you this as I have no other name to refer to this diverse group of humans as)

I have quite simply given up on the solitary thought of religion as it has plagued the minds of the, otherwise, intellectual human beings as it has indoctrinated them into believing a book that was based on purely a work of fiction. The idea of not believing in evolution because, "It doesn't abide to my religious code" is absolutely blasphemous as the Theory of Evolution does not disband the existence of a supreme being and some religions DO believe in Evolution. This narrow minded perspective only works for the simplistic Abrahamic religions and disregards any other form of religious doctrine. I believe that one can choose to believe whatever they want, but not to the point where they cherry-pick ideas that only fit into their finite agenda they call their "Beliefs". - CHE



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I disagree with this. Religious beliefs and the beliefs that science proposes are completely different. There is no way to agree with both. It is like saying this fruit is red, but it is also blue. They very hardly overlap and even still, it is difficult to find comparisons. You may choose to believe in religion or you can believe in science, not truly one or the other. To believe in partially one thing counts for practically nothing at all as well, so to state that both are right would be nearly impossible as they are bound to have conflicting beliefs.



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I believe you can follow the teachings of both science and religion. My religion even believes in evolution, so they fit together hand in hand. Also, without science we wouldn't have what we have today. Even though there are the very religious people out in the world who want to have nothing to do with science in their religion, they fail to see that science is everywhere, even in their religion.

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I believe it would be okay to learn both teachings. You might not agree with one as you do the other, but that is completely fine. You can believe what you want to believe. It just expands your knowledge in science and religion, whether you like it or not. 



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It really must be one way or another. I believe that God created the Earth, but I know I don't always share the same views as people. If people want to think that evolution is how us humans came to be then go for it. In schools this subject should truly be taught according to how he students want it to be.



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I think that you can believe in both. I believe in evolution to a certain extent. I think that humans did not evolve, but were created by God. However, I believe that animals are able to adapts to their environment and slightly evolve, just nothing major. How much we believe in evolution just depends on what our religion says.



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